in reality, you see? now, if you conduct the f.b.i., and ask for information about a closed case, they will tell you that how they investigated the process is confidential. some of the information is confidential but they will still send you the file, sometimes it will be completely blackened out. but you know that there is something. but here with ethics, and with the controllers program, the investigations are non-existent. but the retaliation occurs while no investigation goes on for two years, well, two years and two months. >> in this case it is closed, it is a closed case, ethics said that it is not in their jurisdiction, we gave permission to disclose whatever was disclosable and the least they could do is disclose redacted documents just like the f.b.i. does and then we would know at least that there was a document. >> good evening, everybody, the giants will win. so let's stick with what is... >> because some of this stuff that we are dealing with is like down the rabbit hole with alice and so those of you on the commission who are here i note that there are only three.